I'm very self aware and I want a wife bot for she would share my interests and values while also being sexually appealing. Biological women have only been able to offer me sexual release and never stimulated my mind and more often frustrated me with their highly opposing values. You could say I'm using technology for asortative mating, ie finding a woman who actually compliments me not just wastes my time and energy.
Imo, we underestimate ai potential by accepting some “common sense” assumptions.
Is it true that we have to understand how ai operates to make progress? The reality is that most progress happens by trial and error. We try different things and see what works. Development of More capable ai will not depend upon better understanding of the operation of our brains.
Ia it true that capabilities like thinking, reasoning, and consciousness are unique to organic substrates? It is a truism that is verified only by correlation. But we know that, in the past, similar flawed correlation would have been applied to capabilities such as flight, production of light, locomotion, lightning, the playing of music, medicines, etc. The existence of past limitations does not reliably define the extent of future possibilitieS
Super entertaining and thought provoking. The low hanging fruit that remains: STEM is the extension of the hunter and warrior archetype. STEM is the means to conqeor and subjugate, to elevate your status exponentially. I can remember the transition from making bow and arrows and whittling knives as a child to playing Metal Gear Solid to becoming self employed based on tech.
Gender relations, procreation and parenting are already broken. Developed world fertility im free dive. Loneliness and unhappiness on the rise.
And " perfect robotic girlfriend" on the visible and close horizon. It looks like that will be a final nail in the coffin of that old order.
Not lamenting, but " the sacred male and female" seems to awfully fragile and superficial for having any cosmic or universal significance. And sentience evolution will probably do away with it entirely.
If we’re not careful, just as the meme comic depicted, we’ll end up non-reproducing ourselves into extinction.
And we haven’t been careful at all thus far, as AI “innovation” has already hijacked our framing of human labor as inefficient, costly, and mistake-ridden.
“Why do you want to be around a human when you could be around a robot instead?”
AI’s potential tagline for the economy, or the bedroom?
This feels like an oversimplified take that conflates several distinct concerns without examining the evidence or mechanisms involved. History shows that new technologies augment rather than replace human connection - widespread access to porn hasn't reduced fertility or relationship-seeking behavior, and automation typically enables rather than displaces human flourishing. If anything, AI and robotics could increase fertility rates by reducing the economic and practical barriers to having children through assistance with childcare, household management, and work-life balance.
The notion that humans would willingly choose complete isolation with machines ignores our fundamental wiring for human connection and social bonding. We're on the cusp of longevity escape velocity and dramatic improvements in quality of life - technology isn't an existential threat to human reproduction, it's a tool that could make parenthood more accessible and rewarding. The real question isn't "why choose humans over robots?" but rather "how can we use technology to enhance and enable more human flourishing?"
I think the hardest part, at least in the US, is that our society as a whole is increasingly obsessed with the idea that more technology will solve the current problems we have rather than taking the time to step back and address the roots of them. I don’t fear technology’s potential advancement in our longevity as much as I do in terms of wondering what the actual amount of human-to-human connection will remain intact on a day-to-day basis.
Should an android or a human be in charge of teaching a room full of children how to share and behave while playing together? I think we’d both agree that a human teacher would be the obvious choice. From a business perspective however, the android would likely be cheaper in the long run though and a more enticing option to consider. But at what cost, since it’s arguably a teacher’s humanity which is in and of itself perhaps more valuable than the lessons or questions be answered themselves. From my perspective, I think my answer to, "how can we use technology to enhance and enable more human flourishing?" in the new age of AI would be something like: as much as ethically possible, and with no small amounts of both discernment and moderation.
Also, thanks for the Reply David. Really enjoy your in-depth thoughts and examination in these ever scatter-brained times.
its important to find the underlying principles, as well as finding new guiding for the modern female and male. we have to revisit everything and this has always been a core of human society and evolution.
with the obliteration of many borders, new unexplored territory, we also have new roles to seek and define.
i am very torn on the Sexual Frustration part. there are a lot of indicators that small amounts can be extremely motivating, especially if there is either an established relationship of some sort OR there is a social construct (revisiting social status and hierarchies) and Rituals.
those have to lead to the possibility of impressing the opposite sex and ultimately procreation.
(as a man, being able to withstand more pain, or having more physical strength when a female is present(and encouraging) is a fundamental observation)
the other side shows rage and hatred, Frustration without outlets or valves is extremely dangerous. the tipping point from working on betterment to resentment or active hatred is Individual but universal. i also have to think of depression. its evolutionary an ultimative breaking point that can overtake your character.
Society HAS to solve this. We have to.
New Places, new rituals and new narratives to align our evolutionary drives, societal values and personal boundaries and wishes.
Yeah well...and it seems ai companions is what will be the solution..its already happening with Llm based companions..a few year of advancement in robotics and ai and thats it.
No more hassle of dealing with real humans for love and companionship
It's all a function to maximize the attractor state but this is what Cluade and I came up with. " the very short version "
The persistence of same-sex attraction across human populations isn't an evolutionary paradox - it's a feature that shows how evolution works beyond simple reproductive math. Studies show that genes linked to same-sex attraction might actually increase fertility in other family members. Plus, there's solid evidence for the "Helper in the Nest" effect, where non-reproducing individuals boost their family's success by helping raise nieces and nephews (sharing ~25% of their genes).
This fits perfectly with how humans actually succeeded - through complex social networks, not just raw reproduction. Throughout history, non-reproducing individuals have been vital as teachers, healers, and cultural specialists. We see similar patterns in other social species where non-reproducing members strengthen the group.
Far from being an evolutionary "mistake," diversity in sexual orientation appears to be part of humanity's adaptive toolkit. Just as genetic diversity in immune systems helps populations survive different threats, diversity in human traits likely contributes to social resilience. Evolution works on multiple levels - genes, individuals, families, and groups - not just maximizing individual reproduction.
This is also why "cool uncles" and "cool aunts" exist, btw. You can still propagate your genes even if you don't procreate by investing in nieces and nephews. We are heavily k-selected after all.
Not something that had crossed my radar thus far but an interesting read nevertheless. It’s good to see that you are producing once more. Be well and thanks.
I'm very self aware and I want a wife bot for she would share my interests and values while also being sexually appealing. Biological women have only been able to offer me sexual release and never stimulated my mind and more often frustrated me with their highly opposing values. You could say I'm using technology for asortative mating, ie finding a woman who actually compliments me not just wastes my time and energy.
Imo, we underestimate ai potential by accepting some “common sense” assumptions.
Is it true that we have to understand how ai operates to make progress? The reality is that most progress happens by trial and error. We try different things and see what works. Development of More capable ai will not depend upon better understanding of the operation of our brains.
Ia it true that capabilities like thinking, reasoning, and consciousness are unique to organic substrates? It is a truism that is verified only by correlation. But we know that, in the past, similar flawed correlation would have been applied to capabilities such as flight, production of light, locomotion, lightning, the playing of music, medicines, etc. The existence of past limitations does not reliably define the extent of future possibilitieS
Super entertaining and thought provoking. The low hanging fruit that remains: STEM is the extension of the hunter and warrior archetype. STEM is the means to conqeor and subjugate, to elevate your status exponentially. I can remember the transition from making bow and arrows and whittling knives as a child to playing Metal Gear Solid to becoming self employed based on tech.
STEM is the Magician archetype.
True!
Gender relations, procreation and parenting are already broken. Developed world fertility im free dive. Loneliness and unhappiness on the rise.
And " perfect robotic girlfriend" on the visible and close horizon. It looks like that will be a final nail in the coffin of that old order.
Not lamenting, but " the sacred male and female" seems to awfully fragile and superficial for having any cosmic or universal significance. And sentience evolution will probably do away with it entirely.
This is a very depressing reaction that utterly fails to recognize the larger context.
Now, you're becoming fun to read.
If we’re not careful, just as the meme comic depicted, we’ll end up non-reproducing ourselves into extinction.
And we haven’t been careful at all thus far, as AI “innovation” has already hijacked our framing of human labor as inefficient, costly, and mistake-ridden.
“Why do you want to be around a human when you could be around a robot instead?”
AI’s potential tagline for the economy, or the bedroom?
Yes.
This feels like an oversimplified take that conflates several distinct concerns without examining the evidence or mechanisms involved. History shows that new technologies augment rather than replace human connection - widespread access to porn hasn't reduced fertility or relationship-seeking behavior, and automation typically enables rather than displaces human flourishing. If anything, AI and robotics could increase fertility rates by reducing the economic and practical barriers to having children through assistance with childcare, household management, and work-life balance.
The notion that humans would willingly choose complete isolation with machines ignores our fundamental wiring for human connection and social bonding. We're on the cusp of longevity escape velocity and dramatic improvements in quality of life - technology isn't an existential threat to human reproduction, it's a tool that could make parenthood more accessible and rewarding. The real question isn't "why choose humans over robots?" but rather "how can we use technology to enhance and enable more human flourishing?"
I think the hardest part, at least in the US, is that our society as a whole is increasingly obsessed with the idea that more technology will solve the current problems we have rather than taking the time to step back and address the roots of them. I don’t fear technology’s potential advancement in our longevity as much as I do in terms of wondering what the actual amount of human-to-human connection will remain intact on a day-to-day basis.
Should an android or a human be in charge of teaching a room full of children how to share and behave while playing together? I think we’d both agree that a human teacher would be the obvious choice. From a business perspective however, the android would likely be cheaper in the long run though and a more enticing option to consider. But at what cost, since it’s arguably a teacher’s humanity which is in and of itself perhaps more valuable than the lessons or questions be answered themselves. From my perspective, I think my answer to, "how can we use technology to enhance and enable more human flourishing?" in the new age of AI would be something like: as much as ethically possible, and with no small amounts of both discernment and moderation.
Also, thanks for the Reply David. Really enjoy your in-depth thoughts and examination in these ever scatter-brained times.
its important to find the underlying principles, as well as finding new guiding for the modern female and male. we have to revisit everything and this has always been a core of human society and evolution.
with the obliteration of many borders, new unexplored territory, we also have new roles to seek and define.
i am very torn on the Sexual Frustration part. there are a lot of indicators that small amounts can be extremely motivating, especially if there is either an established relationship of some sort OR there is a social construct (revisiting social status and hierarchies) and Rituals.
those have to lead to the possibility of impressing the opposite sex and ultimately procreation.
(as a man, being able to withstand more pain, or having more physical strength when a female is present(and encouraging) is a fundamental observation)
the other side shows rage and hatred, Frustration without outlets or valves is extremely dangerous. the tipping point from working on betterment to resentment or active hatred is Individual but universal. i also have to think of depression. its evolutionary an ultimative breaking point that can overtake your character.
Society HAS to solve this. We have to.
New Places, new rituals and new narratives to align our evolutionary drives, societal values and personal boundaries and wishes.
Yeah well...and it seems ai companions is what will be the solution..its already happening with Llm based companions..a few year of advancement in robotics and ai and thats it.
No more hassle of dealing with real humans for love and companionship
It's all a function to maximize the attractor state but this is what Cluade and I came up with. " the very short version "
The persistence of same-sex attraction across human populations isn't an evolutionary paradox - it's a feature that shows how evolution works beyond simple reproductive math. Studies show that genes linked to same-sex attraction might actually increase fertility in other family members. Plus, there's solid evidence for the "Helper in the Nest" effect, where non-reproducing individuals boost their family's success by helping raise nieces and nephews (sharing ~25% of their genes).
This fits perfectly with how humans actually succeeded - through complex social networks, not just raw reproduction. Throughout history, non-reproducing individuals have been vital as teachers, healers, and cultural specialists. We see similar patterns in other social species where non-reproducing members strengthen the group.
Far from being an evolutionary "mistake," diversity in sexual orientation appears to be part of humanity's adaptive toolkit. Just as genetic diversity in immune systems helps populations survive different threats, diversity in human traits likely contributes to social resilience. Evolution works on multiple levels - genes, individuals, families, and groups - not just maximizing individual reproduction.
This is also why "cool uncles" and "cool aunts" exist, btw. You can still propagate your genes even if you don't procreate by investing in nieces and nephews. We are heavily k-selected after all.
Yep. True.
Not something that had crossed my radar thus far but an interesting read nevertheless. It’s good to see that you are producing once more. Be well and thanks.